dancing-mountain asked: Hello, I just read the ask about the person from Iran who has to fill out "white" on college applications, and I'm simply blown away. I'm not american so I don't know anything about how college works over there, but why on earth would you need to specify your ethnicity on a college application ? It just makes no sense to me at all. Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I'm really clueless on the subject.
colleges give scholarships to people of color and also students from low income families because rich white kids are pretty much the only people who can afford to go to college and can afford the quality of education that gets one through college. colleges want rich white kids who pay full tuition and whose families donate a lot of money but to avoid lawsuits they look for a few applicants of color to let in. more recent applications have tried to include middle eastern peoples and they are usually listed as white even though that makes no sense because most of the middle east is brown skinned.
artistofthebeautiful asked: i'm part of the 1st generation in my family to be born in the US- my parents are from iran. recently, when I fill out college/scholarship applications, im forced to check off the box for "white". this feels offensive on two levels- 1, white doesn't mean caucasian, which I am. 2, I have never felt "white", nor have i been treated as such in school, on the street, but i also can't relate to the torment some POC have experienced. is my frustration unwarranted? are middle easterners considered POC?
POC isn’t an ethnicity or race it’s a political term of solidarity. Caucasian is an outdated term. White refers to people of primarily western european descent. And in the United States someone from Iran would not qualify as white due to outdated supreme court rulings and designate which ethnicities look white enough to qualify. claiming the term poc means claiming a history of colonialsm, imperialism and institutional violence especially at the hands of the US capitalist,regime. claiming the term means claiming a similar lived experience as other marginalized people.
first off, note-a-bear has a great post on how those dreadlocks that the Celts were supposedly wearing actually weren’t dreadlocks as we define them today. that’s when shit like historical context and knowing of what the fuck you speak come into play.
but here’s the thing. the Celts were a really long fucking time ago. and it was one ethnic group amongst MANY of ancient Europe. now, i don’t do Ancient European Shit so i’ll leave it to someone who does to be a bit more detailed but at the end of the day, if you as a descendent of Europeans (i.e. if you as a WHITE PERSON) can only name ONE. ethnic group. that you are more than likely not directly descended from? that invalidates your argument that dreads/tats/body mod was a European “thing.” Just because ONE group of Europeans at one point did it, *does not make it a part of the culture*.
conversely, how many ethnic groups in Africa practice scarring, or piercing, or tattooing, or wear dreadlocks? How many indigenous groups in the Americas? In the Pacific Islands? hint: WAY more than just ONE. a SHIT ton. *more than* europeans ever did.
thusly, dreads/tatts/mods is NOT a european cultural tradition. it’s just not. repeatedly referencing the exception to the rule does not make the exception the rule. it just makes you an supremacist, appropriating jackass.
like, if dreads/tats/body mods really was a European thing, wouldn’t we have seen MORE of that shit? like, wouldn’t maybe early modern Europeans *at the least* still be into it? but no. you don’t see dreads/tats in Renaissance artwork, you don’t see it being worn by King Henry or some shit, you don’t see any baroque-era symphonies with “tattoo” in the title or some shit………like, throughout the cultural products that modern europe has put forth since rome fell, dreads/tatts/mods are nowhere to be found, and that would be the place that they would be found.
but you know when europeans did start writing about tatts? when they starting going to places where brown and black people lived. and there’s a long history behind tattoos and colonization specifically that i’m not going to rehash here, but what do you think made tattoos taboo in western society to *begin* with? it was the fact that the only people who got tattoos were those savage, bestial, filthy natives and the heathen sailors who steered the ships to and fro. racism + classism. plus empire, because colonization was the reason why there were white folks in them brown folks house to begin with!
i mean, what cultural European tradition has been taboo in the west? the ballet? the english language? straight hair? like, think about it. if this really was a european heritage, do you really think it would have been as marginalized in western society as it has been?
i always think about Woodstock. like, if white folks were ever going to support dreadlocks en masse, *that* would be the time you’d see it. but you don’t. at. all.
you know when you do see white ppl starting to rock dreads, tho? after Bob Marley became an international mega superstar. but it’s not appropriation. right.
seriously, if you can find me a picture of a group of white people (from either the U.S. or Europe) wearing dreadlocks *before 1965ish*, and they *weren’t* consciously setting themselves off from the mainstream in some way (i.e. a religious cult or something) but wearing them as a cultural expression of their own culture, you win. you win everything, actually. because i’m pretty sure you’re not going to find it.
but don’t worry. i’ll wait.
ETA: i guess maybe the vikings had “dreads” too? even still, two(ish) ethnic groups a continental/racial tradition do not make. see: the rest of my post.
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solarplexuss asked: my English class is reading to kill a mockingbird rn and sometimes we read it aloud in class and I was wondering what's correct in terms of what I as a white person should say when we come across the n word
I would just go with n word.
gagaslovegame asked: Hi. I'm trying to understand this whole "appropriation" thing and I don't know if you're the right person to ask but i'll go ahead anyway. How is white people making their hair into and afro or cornrows offensive? Can you just try to explain how appropriation in itself is offensive. Thanks for your help, i'm just trying to become a better person and would love for you to help me on that journy :)
Look through our tag, it’ll give you a lot of information on cultural appropriation.
hannybalthecannybal asked: How would you define culture appropriation? I've heard and seen numerous examples, but a clear definition would be extremely helpful.
Sure, we have a tag full of information on cultural appropriation.
dolphincormierdd-deactivated201 asked: hey, I'm the person who asked (like a month ago) about how poc can be considered offensive in the uk. since then, i've noticed a lot of discussion has erupted over the post and i would just like to clarify that I am not white, and I was referring to non-white people who are offended by the term. My close friend asked me to send that message because the term makes her uncomfortable as a result of bullying. I was not suggesting you don't ever use the term - just that people would consider ---->
" listening to the opinions of non-white people outside of the us who are offended by certain terms and maybe considering alerting them when the term is used"
Okay, the term people of color was created by a group of non-white women in the United States because they wanted a better term than non-white. And also wanted a term that conveyed solidarity between oppressed peoples. It’s a political term not a replacement for ethnicity/race. And it is not something that white people came up with. If y’all in the UK want to call yourselves something else go for it.